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Are they programed like slot machines that a win or a loss is predetermined,or is it a random flow of cards. With all of those poor rules you will lose regardless if the machine is legit or not. And of course, IF the machine is set to cheat. If it does not play fairly then that's a whole different story. At first I thought maybe huge clumps were being delayed but this quickly proved false as I saw the same thing at many tables. Is the discussion about the video-BJ machines that are like video poker machines, or the "digital BJ" machines like the ones in Cherokee? From the comments, I suspect no one actually has any proof, they just suspect it from the way the cards are dealt. I've often wondered how they work. Search forums. And, of course, IF the machine is set to cheat. Video BJ has a much higher payback percentage than most slots or VP games. Had the machine paid you 5 instead of 4, the amount would be equal. They both suck, just one more than the other. Search Advanced search…. BJ might be the same. My gut feeling is that the answer is NO , that in fact machines do play legitimately, and that the only house edge is in the series of rules that are poor for the player. MUCH better than the live games where they use 6 decks minimum, pay 3 to 2, and the dealer hits on soft The only negative with the video blackjact is the deck is re-shuffled each hand. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thread starter Ronnie Start date Feb 14, Ronnie Active Member Feb 14, Not taking into account the built-in house edge, as I noted in my post from Sunday about Bally's Multi-Play Blackjack machine, I am curious about something else Are blackjack machines honest? Pretty much what a slot machine does What would really suck about that is it would have no chance of a big bonus like slots, so I would hope it at least pasys off more If the machine shuffles and puts cards in a queue so whoever takes the next hit gets whatever card is next, then it's just like a dealt BJ game except for the shuffle. Log in. I ask this because the thought occurred to me that it would be very easy to program a machine in such a way to allow the dealer to "just happen to" get more "make" cards than "break" cards. Keno machines,from what I understand,predetermine the amount of hits you will get in a given hand. There is much less variance on these than on a slot or video poker machine. This alone is enough to get to me, I think it was 5 or 7 standard deviations to loose units in hands but alas, that wasn't counting the variance as I do admit I lost alot of doubled split hands. The total hands played is about 2, I was counting alot of hands and trying to determine latency on these machines. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. Last edited: Feb 14, That is a good question. Obviously these rules will benefit the house greatly. Last edited: May 25, KenoPal said:. Whatever numbers you play are meaningless,you'll get the number of hits the machine determines. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. By "cheat" I take it people mean does it pre-determine if you will win or lose and deal the cards accordingly. Do Blackjack Machines cheat or play fair? This seemed to be happening at every table with the machines. The difference between machine and table language is what fools most players. Log in Register. Or another fact to consider Your instinct is telling you not to. As said they still suck since they usually pay 2 for 1 on BJ and may allow splits only on You must log in or register to reply here.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I am hoping that someone here knows for certain. I think that those machines cheapen blackjack make it less fun and don't give those players incentive to step up to the tables where the real money is. What I noticed is that the cards continually came in clumps of mainly highs and then mainly lows. KenoPal New Member May 25, MUCH better than the live games where they use 6 decks minimum, and the dealer hits on soft The only negatives with the video blackjack are: the deck is re-shuffled each hand, and they pay 2 to 1 for blackjack but much better than the even money I've seen on some machines. Its not a terrible game. I welcome comments. Cardcounter Well-Known Member Feb 15, Video blackjack is terrible. Is my gut feeling correct? I'll bet they pay "2 for 1", which is actually even money. But I suspect they don't need to set the machines to cheat, since most people I see playing blackjack don't play correctly. I welcome comments! Sonny said:. In other words, to cheat! While bad compared to table BJ,keep in mind that you can play it for as little as 25 cents a hand while quickly sucking down premium liquors and you are getting slot points towards your comps. I think what you shoudl really do here is quit playing this stupid machine. There is simply no benefit to playing them. Enough to have me think that they are fucking everyone over. Are you sure they pay 2 to 1 for blackjacks? If the casino offered machines with the same rules that they have at the table even though I wouldn't be able to beat them because the deck would be shuffled every hand I would personally play them because they are fun to play. I thought they always thought people who think they are cheating were just crazy until I started trying to find the delay on some machines in australia. Blackjacks ScottH said:. I feel these video blackjack machines, with their favorable rules, are much better than the table blackjack offered. For example-you have a You choose to hit and get a ten. Well, yes and no. If the casino allows you to use free slot play dollars on the video BJ machines,it can be a great benefit. If you look at the rules on the machine then you can often find terrible rules like blackjacks paying even money, the dealer wins ties, splits not being allowed or some other crazy rule. Search titles only. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Forums New posts Search forums. Video Blackjack is terrible compared to table blackjack some machines won't let you split a pair or double down, and on top of that a blackjack pays even money. I've noticed when my GF plays video keno,she might play a number 20 times in a row without it hitting,but when she goes off it ,it hits. Preston Well-Known Member Feb 14, I am going out on a limb here with this but I read somewhere I want to say AMerican Casino guide that video poker is supposed to be randomly drawn cards but places have been caught in the past controlling how many hands hit and what cards come out next. Forums Forums General JavaScript is disabled. Do they cheat? But I've had the same feelings at times playing at the tables! Technically the latter is said to be illegal. Not necessarily 'cuz it's rigged tho. I don't mind investing a small amount of money playing a machine with poor odds -- for entertainment value -- if the machine plays fairly. And yes, it would be very easy to set up those machines to play unfairly. But had you chose to stand,does that 10 automaticly go to the dealer or would he get a card based on if you set to win or lose? Sonny Well-Known Member Feb 14, Ronnie said:. You are having too many superstitions and you might make bonehead plays as a result.. In australia blackjack has the lowest house edge of all the games by miles if you play correctly, and this is probably how they squeeze everyone out. New posts.